
The female zealot
In a revealing interview, Harvard's Swanee Hunt explains why women should
be more politically active and what she learned from her infamous oil tycoon father.
By Ruthie Ackerman
Whether working with mothers in war-scarred Bosnia or
bringing together the world's brightest students as the
director of the Women and Public Policy Program at Harvard University's
Kennedy School of Government, Swanee Hunt has devoted her life
to increasing the participation of women in politics and peace
activism around the globe. In her new memoir, "Half-Life
of a Zealot," Hunt retraces the steps -- from her Southern
Baptist upbringing in Texas, through the trials of her first
marriage, to her life in diplomacy -- that shaped her as a
woman, a leader and a mother, and drove her to politics.
The daughter of oil tycoon H.L. Hunt, Hunt grew up with everything
money could buy. But she realized young that in order to move
out of her emotionally absent father's shadow -- and away from
the scandals and intrigues that punctuated his life -- she
would have to find a mission of her own. Hunt's father's money
and notoriety -- as a conservative businessman and ardent anti-communist
with suspected ties to the JFK assassination -- may have paved
her way early in life, but she was unafraid to forge a divergent
path, becoming a philanthropist and later an ambassador to
Austria, from 1993 to 1997, under former President Bill Clinton.
But though often intimate and revealing, "Half-Life of
a Zealot" also looks past Hunt's own life to confront
the challenges facing the world's women today -- from the global
perils of poverty and poor healthcare to the more personal
challenges that come with juggling kids and a demanding career.
Through it all, Hunt's abiding hope is to engage women in the
political process. Her message: Think big, ask a lot of questions,
and know that you have a place at the table.
Despite the progress women like her friend, Sen. Hillary Clinton,
and Rep. Nancy Pelosi have made in the political arena, Hunt
still worries whether America will be ready for a woman in
the White House by 2008. But the sweeping changes of the recent
midterm elections and the record numbers of women now serving
in U.S. government give her faith that women will soon have
more opportunity to positively influence international events
than ever before. And even if it takes a revolution to change
women's place in the world, Hunt is ready to lead it.
"Zealot," is usually a word we associate with fanaticism
-- Why did you choose it for the title of your book?
I knew the word could be provocative. But I also wanted
to make the point that we need to reclaim zeal.
There are absolutely causes that we should be zealots over. We ought to be zealots
over ending poverty. We ought to be zealots about having
clean drinking water. We ought to be zealots about the fact that
30,000 children are going to die today.
I have huge admiration for people who sacrifice more than
I do -- I really don't consider myself a model of sacrifice.
I live a very, very, very comfortable life. On the other
hand, if we could get everyone to do 10 percent more than they're
doing right now we wouldn't have the problems we have. Our
problems are not that there is not enough food and clean
water in the world -- the problem is distribution. So really
it is incumbent upon those of us who live such privileged lives
to create the bridge between effort and results. Because
there are hundreds of millions of people who put out effort and
don't see results.
Have you seen any of the projects you've been involved in
really bring about change?
Rwanda, which has a population of 10,000,000, endured a harrowing
genocide in which one-tenth of the population was slaughtered.
But today Rwanda is stable. What a turnaround. Its constitution
demands that women be at least 30 percent of decision makers
in every political structure. In October of 2003, women earned
almost 49 percent of seats in Rwanda's lower house of parliament.
Having achieved near parity in its legislature, that small
African country is first among all nations in terms of women's
political representation. And it is at the forefront of two
international trends: the leadership of women in stopping
war, and the use of quotas to boost women's representation.
More than 90 percent of countries in the world have some kind
of set-aside provision for women. Our work has been to document
the Rwandan successes and challenges to use as a model for
other countries.
You're friends with Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, the president
of Liberia. How do you feel about the fact that a nation
in Africa has elected a female president before the United States?
I am sad about it, but maybe it can serve as an encouragement.
I believe it will happen here in the next decade -- even
now, it's happening in Europe and Asia too.
Helping women has a cascading effect: Healthcare improves
when you give them education -- and then the number of children
goes down, which means there is less deforestation because
the population uses fewer trees. Which means you don't have
as much runoff and environmental degradation. All those problems
are so interrelated -- and that's great news. Because it
means you can attack the problem cycle from 20 different ways.
So getting women active in politics -- that will be the lever
that decides everything else. Once you get women into political
office in a certain percentage, they change the budgets of
their countries. They take money out of defense and put it
into education and health. The only question is, how long
will that take? Because a lot of human suffering will go
on until we get to that point. The U.S. is 67th in the world in terms
of representation of women in Congress and parliament.
What advice do you have for young women?
There seems to be something in women's makeup that makes
them devalue themselves and their abilities. I am not sure
what the culprit is: Is it hormonal? Is it learned socially?
Is it the way our brains are made? But women don't
put their hands up in class at Harvard. They won't go to the microphone
during our biggest assemblies, when there are three or four men
beside every microphone. And these are the smartest women
in the world!
So my advice to women is to be excruciatingly conscious
of that tendency -- and to push past it. I know that may
not be the way every single woman acts in comparison to every
single man, but I think it is a majority. So know it doesn't mean
you're a bad person if you have self-doubt -- and that
it isn't only about you.
Do you think that behavior has affected women's position
in the world today?
Well, if you take that and you apply it to women in politics
and women in Fortune 500 companies, you notice we are so
much more comfortable with the smaller things than we are
with the big. And that may have to do with our illusions of ourselves.
By far the biggest growth in the U.S. economy in the past
15 to 20 years has come from women-owned small businesses.
So why are there only something like six women heading Fortune
500 companies? Small businesses are great, but there is
something wrong with that. Why is it that across denominations
the women are doing the work while the men are being messiahs,
standing up there with the bread and the wine? The biggest challenge
is thinking too small.
You grew up as a Southern Baptist. Does religion play a
role in your life now?
I reject the idea of God as only relating to a chosen
group and the idea of exclusivity in a religious
faith. I think religion is used as a way to say that we have arrived,
that we have somehow saved you from sins, that we have let you see
the light. Something in that doesn't work for me.
You talk in your book about the challenge of balancing
career and family with your daughter's illness and the
difficulty of working to rebuild the lives of women after the Balkan
war. Do you think you were ultimately successful at juggling
a career and motherhood?
If anyone tells you they don't have doubts, they are
probably lying. But maybe we ask ourselves the wrong
questions. Maybe it's not: Did I balance it right? Maybe it's: Do
the people around me feel loved? Do they feel like I care? Not perfectly
loved, but are they secure in my love?
Every second of every day is a sacrifice. You talk to
your best friend. You write in your journal. You tell
everyone how sorry you are when they tell you how hurt they are
that you weren't there at that particular moment when they really,
really, really needed you. You're never going to get
it completely right. So you have to give up on that need
for perfection.
Is that what part of your journey has been about?
Absolutely. I was so judgmental toward my mother for
not being there enough. But our lives are very different,
my mother's and mine. Now I realize the time and effort I spent
being judgmental doesn't help anybody. And the time I spend
being anxious, wondering, "Am I doing this right?" -- that doesn't help anybody either.
Guilt may be a very useful emotion, so let's not aim for a
guilt-free life. But you can't obsess about it either. Figuring
out how to bring yourself to terms, to say, "I'm sorry
how I let you down," and to feel contrition and
move on -- I think that's the journey.
You talk a lot about how wise your daughter has become
after living with the ups and downs of bipolar disorder.
What have you learned from her?
Over time, my daughter has gotten through the rage
of adolescence, which is really hard when you're bipolar.
The chemical imbalance makes everything feel more intense: You're
not afraid, you're terrified; you're not angry, you're enraged.
But a few years ago, Lillian called me and said, "Mom,
I know I told you you were a failure and that you were a bad
mother." And she said, "Ma, you weren't a
bad mother. You did what you needed to do. You lived
your own life. What I will say is that because you gave yourself to other
people, didn't mean you weren't giving yourself to
me. You made a lot of decisions that I wouldn't have made. But you
didn't do it because you were mean and you didn't do it because
you didn't care. You did it because you were you and you were
trying to be faithful to who you were, and be faithful
to me, and be faithful to the world. There is nobody that can judge
that."
In your book you talk frankly about your difficult
relationship with your father. Did Lillian help you
learn to withhold judgment of him?
Lillian read a draft of my book and insisted I repackage,
reframe and look at the stuff about my father from
a different point of view, over and over again. For instance, I had written
a scene about the time Dad gave Helen, my sister, a
brown wallet with the initials HLH on it, but it was a man's wallet.
I ended by saying, "It was the only gift he ever gave any of us
and it was a man's wallet." Like, "What a screw-up!" But
Lillian read that and said, "Mom, that's such a beautiful
story. He gave her something that was really about who he was." I
realized I had been looking at the deficit model and she was
looking at the profit model. Then all of a sudden I thought, "Oh
gosh, this poor guy." Suddenly he became much
more three-dimensional instead of just the withholding
father who let me down.
Your write that "We aren't who we are through genetics,
we are shaped by those we meet at the right split-second." Who
did you meet at the right split second that changed
your life?
Hillary Clinton. When I sat down and talked to Hillary
for the first time, I felt like if we were both starting
a company -- like I would have her, and she would have me, and
one of us would be president and one would be vice
president. Our brains went click, click, click, and we discovered
that our values were similar, we read the same books.
That was that moment that changed my life forever. She said, "I want
you to be in the administration," and I went up
and worked on the transition team and one thing led
to another. She asked me to come to Washington and talked to me about what
I should do for women around the world. I put together
Vital Voices with women leaders around the globe and she came and
keynoted it. Now Hillary is the co-chair of Vital Voices.
In your introduction you talk about carefully choosing
what to put in the book and what to leave out. Can
you talk a little bit more about that process?
There is some high drama that is not in the book because
it would have been hurtful to the people involved.
I didn't want to write this book at the expense of other people.
I think that would be a really unloving thing to do.
But I guess everyone makes those decisions when they write an autobiography
-- that's why Kay Graham said if you're going to write one, do
it when most of the people in it are dead.